Friday, September 14, 2007

Hookie Dookie Panic!


Looking back over the last few webcomics I've personally reviewed, I've been taking it rather easy. The last truly terrible webcomic was College Roomies From Hell, almost a month ago. It inspired a great deal of retarded comments and brought about a wonderful tête-à-tête with some Belgian guy who assumed that because he couldn't understand what I was saying, I was wrong. I kind of miss taking potshots at webcomics that bring about that level of stupidity, mainly because it's better than having the jerk responsible ignore their numerous flaws outright. So I'm going to start bashing some webcomics with large, crazy fanbases or large, crazy creators.

Hookie Dookie Panic! is my first target. Not popular, for good reason, but it has a few malingering fans who are following it for God knows what reason. No, the reason I'm going after this webcomic (besides the fact it's fucking atrocious in art, writing and overall presentation) is because Mr. Brian Wilson is an unintentional source of comedy. He's the kind of guy who, after being called out for the rampant misogynist he is on the feminist comic forums at Girl-Wonder.org, begins his first post there with "
Who put a computer in the kitchen is what I want to know".

Classy.

He goes on to add such wonderful lines as "angry 40 year old bitch with a mullet who you see on any college campus asking girls to burn their bras for reasons no other than because she wants to see some fine boob action" and "That is kind of like me(very white) advocating for black rights with the NAACP."

Because if it wasn't bad enough that you're busting out the "feminists are ugly and need to get laid!" lines, you've got to cap it all off by implying that white people (eh eh eh eh) don't have to give two shits about anything that happens to black people (doo doo doo).

So, now that we have a glimmer of insight into the sexist, racist mind of Brian Wilson, I think we should look at his webcomic and start preparing to judge and ridicule him in equal measure.

The title is Hookie Dookie Panic! and let's begin our review there. Like El Goonish Shive and Sluggy Freelance, it's a shitty title that means nothing. Thank God it's a shitty webcomic that means nothing, or it might be worse. But it lulls you into a false sense of security. It brings to mind Nintendo games, or perhaps Peruvian children's television. It makes you think it might be something innocuous, perhaps even zany. You couldn't be more wrong. You couldn't be more oblivious to the fucking monstrosity that awaits.

Poop jokes, cripple jokes, self-insertion main character, spelling errors, terrible speech bubbles, unfathomably terrible grasp of perspective, gradient fills, overuse of the blur tool to replace any concept of focus... the first strip is a good guide of what not to do when starting, finishing or doing any part of a webcomic whatsoever. But, you know what I'm going to say next. It gets worse.

Strip the second is the kind of "Internet humour" that is about as funny as taking a hammer and chisel and breaking all of your ribs. It's a simple formula, derived from the classic nerd tradition of rolling two d100s and matching up the numbers to items on a table. This time it apparently hit "45-55: Jesus" and "75-80: Ninja" and the result is something that's so painfully bad I think I may actually rate breaking all my ribs as more entertaining.

Racism, along with more of the same "Internet humour". Animu bullshit nobody finds funny. A terrible joke, but with the same animu bullshit added in. Poop jokes, incomprehensible text. Mindless violence from the self-insertion character. I have no idea. We could do this all day, going through the entire HDP archives and seeing just how terrible each one is (the answer is "excruciatingly terrible") but that would take too long. Instead, I'm going to give you the edited highlights of HDP.

Strip fourteen begins with an enlightening conversation between Thing 1 and Thing 2. Wilson seems to be blissfully unaware what "genre" is, or perhaps only recognises genres such as "shonen" and "harem" and "hardcore loli rape hentai". Some of you may be cheering the return of the classic "call the guy a paedophile" gambit, unseen since the first Dominic Deegan review, but let's face it: it's probably true. Skipping the interim filler, since HDP seems to be as much filler as the human body is carbon and water, the next strip in the sequence welcomes us into the wonderful world of women-hating.

"Bitch-in-a-Box" is what she is first called. Apparently she takes issue with this, since she decides to stand up with glowing eyes in the most horribly animu way possible. Webcomic jerks of the world, quit this shit. You're not Japanese, no matter how hard you cry yourselves to sleep at night. The glorious Nippon Fairy will not visit you and grant your wish to no longer be baka gaijin roundeye. It wouldn't change a fucking thing about how talentless you are, anyway. In fact, the Japanese are not inherently superior at drawing, writing or anything. Except possibly whaling, but that's only because Inuits don't use giant robots armed with explosive harpoons charged with burning justice.

However, insulting epithets and weeaboo facial expressions aside, it turns out that this woman has a name: "Woman". As in, "Woman, make me a sandwich". Which actually works. Our dear Bitch-in-a-Box complies. Why? Because she's been modded. That is, she has had her free will erased like a Stepford Wife and she's out to please her owner in any way he so desires. She's a person who's been enslaved and forcibly made to do anything. So what's the reaction from our two badly-drawn main characters at this gross infringement of human rights?

"I want one."

Said with a sniffle, possibly portraying admiration at "Wilcow" for having the presence of mind to forgo all this relationship bullshit and distill a woman down to her barest essence: someone to give you a cold beer and a warm blowjob on demand. That's how Brian Wilson sees a woman, anyway. Not to mention he likes 'em cute and petite and clutching their teddy bears as they squeal "Onii-chan! Not so rough!"

It is not to last. Revealing that "Adda" (which would be the stupidest name in the webcomic if it wasn't for every other character in it) has not only removed her mod chip but that same mod chip is the size of a fucking housecat, strip 17 changes tack. Perhaps some faint glimmer of humanity within Wilson spoke out to him and said "A FUCKING SLAVE GIRL ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND, JESUS CHRIST DUDE". Unlikely, since that same glimmer would be chanting "DON'T MAKE THIS FUCKING WEBCOMIC" like a mantra. No, it's entirely like that Wilson's pathetic otaku life made him take more cues from Japan because gee golly it's an unbeatable formula.

The more you read, and that's something you should be avoiding at all costs, the more you realise that this shit is basically just a billion and one references to Japanese culture held together with a splash of humourless Internet humour, pointless violence and yelling at strangers - oh, and racism to go with all that misogyny. Haha! Tampon jokes! Tampons, you guys! Tampons! TAMPONS! It's fresh material like that which reminds you she's a girl, along with the mandatory obsession with ponies, of course.

Then there's the two things that just baffle me, rather than irritate. Hiding everyone's mouths is one of them, but it's probably explainable by being something done in cheap animu to avoid having to animate moving mouths, so is seized upon by Wilson as not only a way to further emulate the country he adores but also to not have to draw expressions on anyone. Except to give them giant eyes or a sweatdrop but that shit isn't an expression. It's not even emotion.

The second thing is the fact that Brian Wilson is apparently a member of the armed forces. Yes, seriously. Maybe he's lying, you'd think. But evidence is provided. Either Wilson has some incredibly zealous fans, or he actually did draw a picture of his self-insertion character on a bomb that, odds are, was probably used to kill civilians. But still, it's baffling. I would have thought that no country would let a racist, misogynistic borderline paedophile animé freak into their ranks. Even if there was a draft. Unless it's all some sinister plan to surround the competent soldiers with a gaggle of useless assholes as a kind of human shield. A "kind of" human shield, since I'd class Wilson as "kind of" human. He somehow manages to not only worship Japan but also simultaneously have a racist Asian caricature in his webcomic - right down to the yellow skin and eating pets.

Fuck this webcomic. I laughed at Brian Wilson's glorious attempt to backpedal on Girl-Wonder.org, as he not only dug himself a hole but filled it in after him, and that's the only time he's ever amused me. I forced myself to look at every last HDP strip, like a prospector at a stream. Except I wasn't even looking for gold, I was looking for fresh water in a stream of shit. HDP managed to fail at being mediocre, which is on such a dismal level of incompetence that I suggest to Brian Wilson that he cease making this terrible webcomic and get the fuck back to Iraq so he can have his hands blown off by some IED. Let's face it, Brian: you'll make more money off your hands if you lose them than if you continue to churn out useless wank like Hookie Dookie Panic!

415 comments:

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Immelmann said...
Hey, HDP is how I found this blog! What a disgusting cycle of life this is. I have one question for you though: You really thought College Roomies from Hell was worse than Shredded Moose?
glyph said...
I can't for the life of me make sense out of the dialogue in most of the strips I looked at. The problem is not his grasp of English as such (except for spelling). Rather, it's as if Wilson were an extraterrestrial trying to approximate human language and narrative logic, and failing miserably.
Christian said...
It probably is not coincidence that Hookie Dookie Panic sounds so much like the japanese video game Doki Doki Panic
Anonymous said...
you better hope that YOU don't get your "come upons."
glyph said...
Dude, that's "comeuppance." Insults are generally more effective when you know how to spell them.
Anonymous said...
hey retard, that was a joke based on the fact that wilson spelled "comeuppance" wrong in his very first strip.
Anonymous said...
So you don't like it when white guys attempt to do Japanese manga and do it poorly. What about Asians who draw bad manga? Examples: http://www.tsunamichannel.com - A random guy gets an android for a "little sister" who has the body of a 12 year old but says she's 18. Oh, yeah. Wholesome. Drawn by a Japanese otaku. http://www.wish3.com http://www.seasonsofconstancy.net You tear into a lot of comics by nerdy white boy (SAF and CRFH aren't, but most you've done are). Maybe go for identifying suckiness in other cultures?
Anonymous said...
boys* Bah. Stupid typo.
glyph said...
that was a joke based on the fact that wilson spelled "comeuppance" wrong in his very first strip. Oops. Sorry.
jerkface said...
it's like someone sat down with statistics and pie charts and set out to craft the exact opposite of entertainment How in the fuck to people manage to create things this useless on accident?
Anonymous said...
There are over 100 pages of this shit?
Anonymous said...
he actually did draw a picture of his self-insertion character on a bomb that, odds are, was probably used to kill civilians. Glad were able to interject your own personal opinion about the war. Adds more credibility to your tirade.
DMC said...
Anonymous, the link to wish3 should be http://www.wish3.net/ . Wish3.com just leads to a placeholder page. Not that the webcomic's good either way...
David said...
Hey, chances are that when you drop a bomb, someone who didn't deserve to get blown up, is going to get blown up too. It's a dumb bomb. See also: Dresden.
David said...
And I will be very disappointed if you don't get around to reviewing http://www.bostonandshaun.com/
John Solomon said...
You really thought College Roomies from Hell was worse than Shredded Moose? Oh for Christ's sake. Read, comprehend, post. I wasn't the one who reviewed Shredded Moose.
John Solomon said...
Glad were able to interject your own personal opinion about the war. Adds more credibility to your tirade. Actually it was a joke at the expense of the US military, who have a track record for killing civilians, allies and generally everyone but the right people. I don't really give two shits about that war, doesn't affect me and never has.
John Solomon said...
And I will be very disappointed if you don't get around to reviewing http://www.bostonandshaun.com/ Uh, this blog is for bad webcomics? Not the single greatest work of fine literature that mankind will ever produce. Take your trolling elsewhere, good sir.
Phobos said...
I remember finding this sometime last year. Hookie Dookie Panic is a fantastic name for a madcap adventure filled with charm, wit, and zaniness. This is not that adventure. This is a tragedy in Internet form.
Anonymous said...
I'm surprised no one's noticed HDP's self-insert's striking resemblance to Beaker from "The Muppet Show". Or maybe they have.
bar1scorpio said...
Anonymous Said: he actually did draw a picture of his self-insertion character on a bomb that, odds are, was probably used to kill civilians. Glad were able to interject your own personal opinion about the war. Adds more credibility to your tirade. Yeah.. it's a joke. About bombing. For craps sake, I'm still behind the war right now, and even I found that line funny. The proper reply would have been: "You're giving a bad review to a webcomic written by a person who is fighting for our freedom in Iraq! That's not supporting the Troops! Why do you Hate America?" See? When in doubt, always refer to a Meme. Or Godwin's Law. I just don't like the word "Dookie" in the title. Kinda implies scat humor.
Anonymous said...
I met this guy at Connecticon. He was selling "I'ma chargin my lazer" shirts, and when asked if the backs had anything Shoop-worthy, he replied that he just heard someone on AIM drop the meme on him and, despite not understanding it, decided half of it was worth putting on a shirt. I think it was just a lolsupercool guy with a big laser gun, too.
Anonymous said...
Why even get into the misogyny here? It is by far the least of this comic's problems! If you're really offended by the old "bitch, make me a sandwich" gag, you're wound a little too tight.
Crispy said...
Do you have any idea where that white people (eh eh eh) / black people (doo doo doo) thing comes from? I thought it was from stevemoustache.com until I saw it pop up elsewhere.
John Solomon said...
Why even get into the misogyny here? It is by far the least of this comic's problems! If you're really offended by the old "bitch, make me a sandwich" gag, you're wound a little too tight. The old "bitch, make me a sandwich" gag doesn't end in the bitch actually making you a sandwich because someone turned her into a slave with no free will to serve your every whim. The old "bitch, make me a sandwich" gag isn't even funny to begin with.
John Solomon said...
Do you have any idea where that white people (eh eh eh) / black people (doo doo doo) thing comes from? I thought it was from stevemoustache.com until I saw it pop up elsewhere. It's from the Something Awful Forums - specifically, FYAD. It was made for a site called Fyadhaus, which was a collection of short, looping flash animations. The site is gone, but its legacy remains.
Anonymous said...
BRIAN WILSON IS MY HERO!
john said...
not the same after the beach boys
Anonymous said...
Oh Jesus. It's an exploding volcano of bias and references to everything shitty. Toonami? Naruto? You're an adult and in the Air Force, how have you even survived this long? I'm just trying to comprehend how you could possibly read every comic. How? I could hardly get through one fucking strip; the 13 panels and excessive use of pointless, drug-out dialogue almost made me cry. By far the worst comic you've reviewed yet, in my opinion.
Immelmann said...
Oh for Christ's sake. Read, comprehend, post. I wasn't the one who reviewed Shredded Moose. Sorry, my fault for not studying every single tiny aspect of a blog found yesterday. Sarcasm aside, though, my bad. All the reviews worth reading (DD, VG Cats, CAD) were by Solomon so I just assumed. Poorly!
Andrew said...
Man, I love this blog, but wishing that a military person get hurt is really low, even if he does draw an offensive webcomic. I'd think you were above such a thing.
colin said...
andrew - every other bad webcomic author here is also encouraged to get maimed in some form, from what I can tell. So, just because he could actually die we can't suggest that maiming is fitting punishment for this abomination of a comic? That's weak.
bar1scorpio said...
And now I'm.... LYING IN BED, JUST LIKE BRIAN WILSON DID-
John Solomon said...
Man, I love this blog, but wishing that a military person get hurt is really low, even if he does draw an offensive webcomic. I'd think you were above such a thing. You're new here, aren't you
Lurker said...
lets see you make better.
Unwinder said...
A+ comment, Lurker. You've made an excellent, and previously unconsidered point that has clearly undermined the credibility of this blog.
Anonymous said...
For his sake he should better hope that he's a better soldier than he is a webcomic "artist". Jesus Christ...
Jared said...
Lurker, don't think your the first dumbass to try to pull the "LOL WERES UR WEBCOMIC" card. If you're going to make a retarded argument don't use one that's been used thousands of times before.
Jared said...
Holy shit, page redesign. I'm liking the new look
John Solomon said...
lets see you make better. I'll alert you whenever I wipe my ass, then.
John Solomon said...
Yeah, I was getting bored of the old look. It was liked reading the side of a carton of orange juice.
Lurker said...
"I'll alert you whenever I wipe my ass, then." well. i am a fan of HDP but that made me giggle. well played.
Jared said...
The side of a carton of orange juice may inform me of the dietary value of the contents of said orange juice box, as well as the ingredients, but I think this blog is a lot more entertaining
Mike said...
Maybe I'm growing soft, but once again, I'm not annoyed by the type of comedy in this strip. I'm annoyed by the shitty art and the lack of actual humor in the strip. Like I said in Shredded Moose comments, you can do "shock" humor and be funny, but here's another guy who thinks because he heard Stern or O&A do it, that he can too. And he can't. Also, John, maybe I'm falling behind or missed something, but why do you call it "animu" and not "anime?"
Kellhound said...
Animu is basically crappy wannabe anime art. Where as anime art would be either generic or decent.
John Solomon said...
Also, John, maybe I'm falling behind or missed something, but why do you call it "animu" and not "anime?" Because there's a difference between the two! "Anime" is the term the Japanese use for animation, and has been co-opted by us English-speaking types to mean "Japanese animation". It covers everything from Miyazaki films (which are awesome) to loli rape hentai (which isn't). "Animu" refers to the shitty aspects of Japanese animation, rather than the whole. The loli rape hentai would be animu, a Miyazaki film would be not. It's an easy way to differentiate between the small amount of good stuff Japan's produced and the mountain of shit it's also produced. So if I say a webcomic is "animu" I mean it's badly drawn, badly written and probably full of katanas, panty shots, hyperexaggerated forehead veins and sweatdrops, etc. and so forth. All the stereotypical shit that makes people ashamed to admit to watching Japanese animation, basically.
John Solomon said...
Animu is basically crappy wannabe anime art. Where as anime art would be either generic or decent. I'm pedantic enough to never describe Japanese-inspired art (that's actually good) as "anime". Anime is animation. I'd use the term "manga" instead. However, considering there are very few webcomics that do manga-style art competently and none of the ones that manage to do it are bad, it's not likely to come up.
Anonymous said...
Lol. The review is hilarious. I like how you are revealing thIs weeaboo shit for what it is. (90% of webcomics) People need to realize that Japan lost world war II for a reason, and also why they kill themselves 4x as much as Americans. Also good call on the lame "meme dice". After being inundated with raptor jesus & zombie jesus , I don't think ninja jesus is entirely necessary.
Anonymous said...
What kind of dipshit joins the war in Iraq and thinks he's protecting America? Oh right.
tehkou said...
Weighing in on the "liking the new look" front. What I like about this comic is that it's not just lame animu jokes, it's lame, ancient animu jokes. I mean, Pocky craving jokes, Mr. Wilson? Cartoon Network censorship humor? References to Firefly being an Outlaw Star ripoff, three years after the show went off the air? Come on, seriously. And yeah, main character guy totally looks like Beaker.
Evfedu said...
In fact, the Japanese are not inherently superior at drawing, writing or anything. Except possibly whaling, but that's only because Inuits don't use giant robots armed with explosive harpoons charged with burning justice. Fuck yes. Best thing on this blog since "nonce of the written word".
a s williams said...
every other bad webcomic author here is also encouraged to get maimed in some form, from what I can tell. So, just because he could actually die we can't suggest that maiming is fitting punishment for this abomination of a comic? That's weak. I don't know, when people die every day from IEDs defending your right to sit there at a computer and complain about something as trivial as webcomics, well I just don't see the humor in wishing that on someone. It's just as bad as being a misogynist or a racist which is not just evil but apparently super evil according to Mr. Solomon. You're new here, aren't you No, I'm not.
Anonymous said...
wow... never knew someone could bitch so much in suck a small amount of space.... cmon, its a fucking webcomic for crying out loud. some people just find this stuff funny (me included).im sorry that you think of yourself as some higher being just cause you can look at someones work and call it shit cause you dont like it.
Anonymous said...
"im sorry that you think of yourself as some higher being just cause you can look at someones work and call it shit cause you dont like it." Oh, like you're doing right now? Go back to masturbating to episodes of Inuyasha.
colin said...
I don't know, when people die every day from IEDs defending your right to sit there at a computer and complain about something as trivial as webcomics, ahahahahahahahaha aahahhaha yeah my freedom to use a computer without being murdered by islamic extremists was really in doubt, good thing we sent this dude to iraq
John Solomon said...
I don't know, when people die every day from IEDs defending your right to sit there at a computer and complain about something as trivial as webcomics, well I just don't see the humor in wishing that on someone. Dude, I had totally forgotten that before 2003 I didn't have any right to free speech. Silly me!
John Solomon said...
cmon, its a fucking webcomic for crying out loud. some people just find this stuff funny (me included). My condolences!
Anonymous said...
"I don't know, when people die every day from IEDs defending your right to sit there at a computer and complain about something as trivial as webcomics, well I just don't see the humor in wishing that on someone." Defending our rights? In some bumfuck country no ones ever heard of until 2001, that wasn't a threat to us ever? I don't think so, dipshit.
Lawrence said...
Great review, as per usual, but the best part for me was the white-people-black-people flash. I lost my copy in a hard-drive crash a few years back, and I've been meaning to find a new one. Thank you for encouraging my laziness.
a s williams said...
Dude, I had totally forgotten that before 2003 I didn't have any right to free speech. Silly me! Wow, I had totally forgotten that today I told you that you had no right to say whatever you want. Silly me! Silly reading comprehension!
a s williams said...
iDefending our rights? In some bumfuck country no ones ever heard of until 2001, that wasn't a threat to us ever? I don't think so, dipshit. Wow, why don't you look at the oath that every American military person takes and become educated on something for once in your life.
tehkou said...
However, considering there are very few webcomics that do manga-style art competently and none of the ones that manage to do it are bad, it's not likely to come up. This got me thinking. If I'm not mistaken, most of the elements of 'manga style' are the result of trying to get around the constraints of the format manga is published in (the heavy use of zipatone, line width variance, etc). But then, most of these constraints don't actually apply (and the techniques are actually harder to employ than just, say, using color) when you're making a comic on your computer and posting on the internet. But then, most 'anime style' stylizations are the result of budgetary constraints to make animation cheaper, so it's equally illogical for people to use them in their (non-animated) comics. And yet, people still use them fairly regularly. So I wonder, is this just another one of those "eat so much shit you decide it's candy-flavored" situations? Or is there some other explanation?
John Solomon said...
Wow, I had totally forgotten that today I told you that you had no right to say whatever you want. Silly me! Silly reading comprehension! You told me that people from another country dying in another different country is why I can sit at my computer and update my blog. Said dying has been occuring since 2003. Therefore, before these foreigners started dying, I must have been incapable of sitting at my computer and updating a blog. The right to free speech is not some kind of universal machine fuelled by the corpses of American soldiers. It exists during those frequent moments when not only is America at peace, but also content to sit back and ignore the rest of the world's problems. I am neither an American nor am I an Iraqi. I do not serve in any military. So no amount of IEDs and soldiers getting hit by them has affected my right to talk about shitty webcomics.
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John Solomon said...
So I wonder, is this just another one of those "eat so much shit you decide it's candy-flavored" situations? Or is there some other explanation? Gross incompetence, perhaps? I mean, it's so much hard work to learn how to draw people from scratch. But so much easier just to copy the simplistic designs I see on TV!
Lim-Dul said...
I don't know, when people die every day from IEDs defending your right to sit there at a computer and complain about something as trivial as webcomics Like... in Iraq? Oh yeah, there's a lot of defending going on there - preemptive defense! Christ... cmon, its a fucking webcomic for crying out loud. some people just find this stuff funny (me included). Ha, ha! I'm SOOO gonna link to my patented "You Have Probably Never Seen a Good Webcomic and You Should Feel Bad" test-procedure I mentioned while commenting on the Shredded Moose review every time I see fanboy-comments like these. I think I'll put the text on a website somewhere because fanboys usually don't have a long enough attention span to read something longer than three words if it appears directly in the comments section but they are sure as hell to follow any link that is labeled as Free Porn. ;-)
Anonymous said...
This comic is both repulsive and depressing. What a waste of oxygen and Internets. Your review does it justice. Oh, and anon is digging the new layout, good sir. Far more suitable, if you won't mind me saying it.
Lim-Dul said...
I am neither an American nor am I an Iraqi. Ha! I knew you weren't American when you wrote "honour" instead of "honor" in some review or comment. =) It's little things like these that having studied linguistics makes you notice. ;-) Which by the way reminds me of... "You have no honour!" "You spell 'honor' like a Brit!" "Have at you!" Ha, ha!
a s williams said...
I am neither an American nor am I an Iraqi. I do not serve in any military. So no amount of IEDs and soldiers getting hit by them has affected my right to talk about shitty webcomics. Oh, my bad. Maybe your country doesn't have something like the U.S. first amendment. In that case, feel free to wish death on people in a warzone. And yes, I am going to keep reading your blog because, well, it's a great blog.
Anonymous said...
Wow, why don't you look at the oath that every American military person takes and become educated on something for once in your life. Umm, that still doesn't change the fact that the US military isn't protecting our rights by dying in Iraq, let alone doing ANYTHING there. Am I getting through to you here? Or are you just another lower class military putz who is unable to string together a coherent set of arguments to support your claims?
Anonymous said...
I am neither an American nor am I an Iraqi. Oh ho! A factiod about the real John Solomon! Sexy!
Lim-Dul said...
On a side note: Soldiers from MY country (Poland, that is) actually ARE dying in Iraq because our government wants to lick the American government's balls (although they couldn't care less) which is fucking even more absurd.
John Solomon said...
Oh, my bad. Maybe your country doesn't have something like the U.S. first amendment. In that case, feel free to wish death on people in a warzone. And yes, I am going to keep reading your blog because, well, it's a great blog. So the United States' First Amendment isn't, as I thought, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." No, it is in fact the very opposite, since the lack of it means I am "free to wish death on people in a warzone." Which begs the questions: Why does your Constitution apparently forbid freedom of speech? And why do I suspect you don't actually understand what freedom of speech is? You're baffling, you seriously are.
John Solomon said...
Oh ho! A factiod about the real John Solomon! Sexy! Curses, my intricate web of lies and misdirection is falling apart!
Lim-Dul said...
Oh, my bad. Maybe your country doesn't have something like the U.S. first amendment. In that case, feel free to wish death on people in a warzone. Can you, sir, explain to me what the First Amendment has to do with wishing death to soldiers in a warzone? From what I know it has something to do with freedom of speech (and in that case it's kind of a bad argument here, isn't it?), free exercise of religion etc. I guess the First Amendment is just the thing you Americans like to bring up in any discussion since it's supposed to be the all-encompassing, holy discourse-blocker, even if quoting it in the given context makes no sense whatsoever. Probably because you're only vaguely aware of what it is about but get brainwashed into thinking that's it's the most sacred thing in the world after the Bible and the Constitution itself since the day you're born. It apparently contains the solution or answer to everything and it probably cures cancer too! You can't fucking mess with the First Amendment, bitch! ;-) "Mommy, mommy! I want ice-cream!" "No ice-cream for you, Suzie, mind the First Amendment!"
Lim-Dul said...
Ha, ha! John! You beat me on posting about the First Amendment but kinda noticed the same stuff! ^^
tehkou said...
Alright, I'm just going to come out and say it: Soldiers can be dicks too. There. Can we get past it now?
John Solomon said...
I love how an offhanded comment about why the US military would accept such a bigot into their ranks has somehow spiralled into jingoistic rants about how my free speech is protected by that same US military despite the fact I apparently shouldn't be using that free speech in the first place. Lighten the fuck up, seriously.
Nick said...
"Oh, my bad. Maybe your country doesn't have something like the U.S. first amendment. In that case, feel free to wish death on people in a warzone." Are you insane? That's exactly what the first ammendment allows. I love the new look, and I like that there is a stated schedule now. Hopefully people will quit complaining about updates now and just wait for them to happen on fridays.
Anonymous said...
That's how things are in Amurrika, iffin you don't like then it go back to Canada with the other communists >:(
Mike Saul said...
It doesn't matter what his job happens to be, making a comic this bad deserves some ill wishes. It's not like every soldier serves for noble reasons, and going through boot camp doesn't make you a better person than those who have not. I have known many soldiers in my life, and some even helped my family in a potentially deadly situation. Some others were huge assholes. Regardless of any wars, ideological conflicts or citizenships, bad art is bad, amateurish writing is amateurish, dickheads are dickheads, and all 3 should be judged accordingly.
bar1scorpio said...
Oh ho! A factiod about the real John Solomon! Sexy! Curses, my intricate web of lies and misdirection is falling apart! Damn.. this just means it's that much harder to invite you to any US-based Anime convention as a Guest so you can moderate a "Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad" panel... And why did these jack@$$es have to start on the war like this? Guys, you're taking discussion into seriously unfunny territory... The risk the soldiers take and the cause that they're fighting for are often independent to the character of the individual soldier. John didn't jump on this guy because he's a soldier, he just used that to spin some personally-tailored derision at the creator. Brian is just a jerk who draws a crappy comic who just happens to be a soldier. Not a upstanding soldier who happens to draw a crappy webcomic. Also, I gotta call you out on the misogyny on this one... after The Moose, it's kinda hard to say that most of the other misogynistic webcomics are that stomach turningly misogynistic. "Woman, Make me a sandwich." Will never hold a candle to punching a pregnant woman in the stomach for an attempt at Lulz. It's one thing to relegate the females in a strip to the roles of sex objects, but it's far more disturbing to have them serve merely as targets for random acts of violence... Oh, and Solomon hates our First Amendment because with no Second Amendment, it's harder to get a gun on his side of the pond. Thus, he'll never be able to jump through the air while firing two guns in each hand like all Americans do, all the time. Well, us and Simon Pegg. But he wasn't shooting real bullets.
John Solomon said...
Damn.. this just means it's that much harder to invite you to any US-based Anime convention as a Guest so you can moderate a "Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad" panel... You can invite me as much as you like, I still would never turn up.
Donnie said...
This has nothing to do with this particular webcomic (or even webcomics in general), but I thought some people here might get a kick out of it: At the insurance processing company I work for, I stumbled across a doctor who submits both his letters and his typed claim forms entirely in Comic Sans. It's a little surreal seeing the words "Genital Contusion" in Comic Sans.
Mike Saul said...
Also, I gotta call you out on the misogyny on this one... after The Moose, it's kinda hard to say that most of the other misogynistic webcomics are that stomach turningly misogynistic. "Woman, Make me a sandwich." Will never hold a candle to punching a pregnant woman in the stomach for an attempt at Lulz. I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you on this one. Shredded Moose was horrible, but a fair part of the misogyny was used as shock humor, and typical frat boy macho posturing bullshit. In HDP, the character of "Woman" is a cardboard cutout of a woman, based on anime cliches and vague ideas gleaned through pop culture. She's introduced as nothing but an object for the boys to have to order around, a convenience. It's deep, deep misogyny on the level that only a social misfit with little to no experience with the opposite sex can conjure up. HDP's misogyny is based on a profound ignorance misunderstanding of what women even are. Brew had the good sense to backpedal when confronted with his opinions. If Wilson was confronted, he'd just scratch his head. After all, isn't that what girls are like in anime? Isn't it normal to view them as sex objects? I mean all my Dungeons and Dragon friends from high school used to talk about girls like this! He's so very condescending and prejudiced about what women are that he can't conceive of viewing them any other way, and he has no clue that he's doing anything wrong.
Daniel said...
"a glimmer of insight into the sexist, racist mind of Brian Wilson" is much funnier if you read "Brian Wilson" as referring to the Beach Boy.
a s williams said...
So the United States' First Amendment isn't, as I thought, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." No, it is in fact the very opposite, since the lack of it means I am "free to wish death on people in a warzone." Which begs the questions: Why does your Constitution apparently forbid freedom of speech? And why do I suspect you don't actually understand what freedom of speech is? No, you said that I suggested that after 2003 your free speech was limited. I said that I said no such thing and referenced the First Amendment, which guarantees your right to say what you want. You said that you weren't an American, so then I said, well you country obviously doesn't have the first amendment, but then I said that you could say anything you want anyway. You either are unable to read or comprehend what you read or you are a moron. I don't think it is the latter so it must be one of the other options and considering you can write, it must be that you can't comprehend.
John Solomon said...
No, I suggested that before 2003 your free speech was limited, since your stance was the Iraq meatgrinder was what made me capable of writing about some guy making a shitty webcomic. Read, comprehend, post. Unless this was never about free speech and you were suggesting that my computer runs off the blood of the brave American dead. Whatever, I don't care anymore. Shut up about it, you Goddamn hippy.
Ted David said...
i am an american
Lim-Dul said...
Hmm... You [...] are unable to read or comprehend what you read or you are a moron. Or you don't know how to express yourself logically. I understood your comment in the exact same way - coincidence? I don't think so. Read it again yourself, if you don't mind: Maybe your country doesn't have something like the U.S. first amendment. In that case, feel free to wish death on people in a warzone. Now, what exactly is the function of the expression "In that case" here? Analyze your text coherence if you will... Maybe your country doesn't have something like the U.S. first amendment. OK, noted. In that case, feel free to wish death on people in a warzone. So if it were to be the OTHER case, that is, John's country had something like the First Amendment, he wouldn't be allowed to wish death on people in a warzone? That's precisely what you're saying. I'm not making this up - it's written black on white in front of my eyes. Go and read some Wittgenstein or something...
Lim-Dul said...
i am an american Not that kind of American, if you get my meaning. ^^ Unless this was never about free speech and you were suggesting that my computer runs off the blood of the brave American dead. No, what he means is that your very existence, not to mention your remarks on the brave American soldiers fighting to save the whole of humankind, is an insult to the American way of life. In the background Spider-Man swings by an enormous American flag and salutes. Oh, how I loved this pompous cinematic moment... NOT. (Hyperbole Alert! At least when it comes to the saluting part.)
Anonymous said...
I found out about this blog from HDP. And I have to agree with Brain, your bashing of his comic has only served to increase the amount of traffic heading to his site. Though your intention by creating this blog is to basically stop people from reading comics that you and your friends deem to be terrible, you in fact are providing a service to the web comic creators by shoving your opinion in our faces and making us look at a comic we otherwise wouldn't have known about. Hell, I'd let you review my shitty comics just to boost readership and viewing traffic. And in all truth you are reviewing comics of people who generally don't give a royal damn about the opinion of others...so the plan of making creators feel bad for making tacky, tasteless, and horrible comics fails from the beginning. Truely the four of you and whom ever else is reviewing comics on this site sound like the same bunch of assholes who berate me for watching Star Trek over Star Wars. And humor me, please, do any of you guys have a webcomic? No really, I want to know. Is your comic so awesome that you have the right to tell others how they should do theirs?
tehkou said...
Ooo, bingo! "Your blog just increases their web traffic" should be a new square. I dun even know where to start with the "Star Trek vs Star Wars" comment. It just really says it all.
JamMasterJim said...
The whole 'if you don't make a webcomic, you can't criticize other webcomics' is so damn retarded. Unless you are a goddamn chef, you have no right to say when food tastes and looks like shit? Power. And if the american way constitutes preemptive strike against a country for our safety (from nuclear weapons that were never found), I can fucking insult it.
Anonymous said...
This is some of the worst art you've reviewed! The self-insert character looks like Fido Dido on crack.
John Solomon said...
Hell, I'd let you review my shitty comics just to boost readership and viewing traffic. Oh, you'd let me? That's so kind, but you fail to understand the positions of power here. You would not more "let" me review your webcomic as a criminal would "let" a judge sentence him. I'm sure your crippling lack of self esteem makes you okay with being called out for being a miserable failure of a human being, so long as you get a few more measly hits for your abysmal webcomic, but you can't do anything about it without me. You need me, my friend, and that's so pitiful it's almost hilarious. Brian is getting no favour from me, anyway. All those faaaaabulous new hits will be lost in time, like tears in rain. You see, people don't come to a blog about bad webcomics to find new webcomics to read on a regular basis. They come here to see something terrible, gawp at it and then leave. Even though I've undoubtedly increased his daily traffic by a factor of one hundred, it won't last. But hey keep on with your zany delusions, why not? I'm sure that it's super-cool you don't give two shits that you're not only stagnating and not improving your work, but also failing to improve yourself. Look back on your life in a few years, and think to yourself "Wow, for five years I didn't achieve anything that I can be proud of!"
John Solomon said...
Man, I knew I picked the perfect webcomic to attract stupid comments.
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Robert said...
Hey, maybe if we get him to listen to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, he'll have a nervous breakdown! ha, ha, haaaa
Kellhound said...
Apparently using logic on the Hookie Dookie Panic Forum makes you a troll. http://hookiedookiepanic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=236&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Lim-Dul said...
I found out about this blog from HDP. Waaaaait a minute. So maybe HDP is actually boosting this blog's traffic thus more people realize how bad HDP actually is? If anybody were to start liking HDP and reading it on a regular basis after discovering it through a link on this blog he/she would have to be fucking insane! In fact discovering HDP by ANY means and not being utterly appalled by it would be fucking insane! All these hits are just a kind of short-term benefit (maybe the author will even get some ad-money or some circle-jerk votes, yay!) but won't do crap in the long run. However, somebody finally writing a truthful review of this abysmal pile of shit will, at least I hope so. Besides - better finding out about any shitty kind of comic through this website, where you get duly warned, than stumbling upon it without a word of warning or even worse - by following the advice of some stupid fanboy who thinks that this shit is ace... I always found the logic in "it doesn't matter what people are saying about you as long as they're talking about you" a bit flawed... P.S. Read about the purpose of this blog.
Baron said...
Though your intention by creating this blog is to basically stop people from reading comics that you and your friends deem to be terrible, you in fact are providing a service to the web comic creators by shoving your opinion in our faces and making us look at a comic we otherwise wouldn't have known about. Haha wow, it's so lucky for them that the whole point of writing a webcomic is to garner as many pageviews as possible rather than creating something you can be proud of and others can be entertained by huh !!!
John Solomon said...
You're being sarcastic, but that really is how they think. Depressing, isn't it?
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tehkou said...
Hell, I'd let you review my shitty comics just to boost readership and viewing traffic. Now that I think about it, this is the same attitude that leads tone-deaf idiots to audition for American Idol. Congratulations, Mr. Anonymous, you have proven yourself on the same intellectual rung as William Hung.
Anonymous said...
Man, I love this blog. You know what you have to do next--"Girly" http://go-girly.com Reading this comic is like watching a battle for the author's soul. A battle between lust and insanity. I gave it up a couple years ago because it was too damn screwed up.
Lim-Dul said...
Apparently using logic on the Hookie Dookie Panic Forum makes you a troll. http://hookiedookiepanic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=236&postdays=0 Hmmm... Is it just me or does this post by Seen not make any sense all although he tries very hard to make it sound like a reasonable, logical and valid argument? Read this shit. I mean, why is it again that women are being mentioned only in the context of strip clubs and porn films? Maybe because they're the only places they have ever seen a woman? Besides - the women really do it for the money because nerdy olympic-grade onanists like the ones posting such comments are willing to pay them a shitload of it. Which actually makes them, not the women, pathetic losers. P.S. You'll get 1 of 2 answers. [...] "Because I love stripping!" Ha, ha! Yeah, they say it so fat men with fat wallets pay them even more! I guess losers like Seen believe that all the whores they were fucking (and I guess that's the only way for them to ever get close to a woman - either that or porn or strip clubs, like Seen said himself) were having a jolly good time and like a gazillion of orgasms because, well, they were saying it! It's not as if somebody was paying them for that! Wait... If Wilson was confronted, he'd just scratch his head. After all, isn't that what girls are like in anime? Isn't it normal to view them as sex objects? Oh, how right you were, Mike... It really went the way you predicted. It's the "Isn't it normal to view them as sex objects?" "argument" from start to finish with an added "And it's their own fault." cherry on top.
Anonymous said...
The self-insert character looks like Fido Dido on crack. Wow, someone admits to remembering Fido Dido. (Guess I do too, by extension.)
Anonymous said...
Hi It pains me to see that most of the webcomics you've sent to fuck off here are webcomics I read on a regular basis. and yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you, for starters in your notion of "good writing" it doesn't seem to exist, I want to expose a case I think is good writing, and that you described as "literacy rape", that's the one of Dominic Deegan. You said it was crap because of it's simplicity, but I don't think the whole Good vs. Evil isn't so bad if you pull it off right, also you just seem to read webcomics in order to be able to criticize them. for example, you missed the fact that at the moment the orc female mentions Luna the alterist, she has overcome her depression, and that, for starters, she was just depressed because nobody loved her, or the thing about the rape, you have to take into acount that Mookie is creating a culture (I won't deny it's based on Warcraft) and that he designed it so that the way they spoused was to be with eachother (in a biblical sense. you also make some understandable critics, but to say that he hasn't advanced from his Dragon ball Z Phase is not true. that's about Dominic Deegan. Now HDP IS something I'd call literacy rape (in a good way), the only thing I can say about the webcomic is it's hardcore, the art is crappy though. But the concept's good. By the way, if you want to revew an art style that has had almost zero improvement since it's begginings revew Megatokyo, although the story 's good and the art's not bad.
Anonymous said...
Dominic Deegan and Megatokyo have good writing? Obvious troll is obvious. No one is that stupid.
John Solomon said...
You say Dominic Deegan is good, you say Hookie Dookie Panic is good and then trash Megatokyo? You're such a hypocrite.
Kellhound said...
That's about the mind set of most the HDP readers, lim-dul. And it's sad one person using actual logic (Myth) is being dismissed as a troll. Where has that ass gets agreed with.
Namiya said...
Congratulations, Mr. Anonymous, you have proven yourself on the same intellectual rung as William Hung. Goddamn you, tehkou! Why did you had to mention that name, thus secretly encouraging me to look it up? I was happy before knowing about William Hung. Damn you and my unquenchable curiosity! Swithcing gears for a moment: Solomon, this one was a great update. It is honestly baffling to watch such a worthless waste of kilobytes. I don't know if it was in the article itself or in this section that was mentioned something about outdated Anime references... ...I am sure you read the whole damn archive of this one, but do you recall one of the recent ones being an Evangelion parody? Fandom can be quite dangerous.
John Solomon said...
Not so much a "parody" as "Shinji rapes a corpse". I don't know how you fuck up making necrophilia funny, but he managed it.
Anonymous said...
a bit late to the party, I know, but my older brother supports the NAACP even though we are prety much completly white. So, just so mr.asshole knows, you don't have to be black to support the NAACP, and you don't have to be a women to support the feminist movement.
John Solomon said...
ATTN /co/: That's actually me, don't be so fucking jaded. Unless people turn up pretending to be me on a regular basis, in which case fuck them.
Ray said...
Love the blog, found it through a forum of a webcomic. Spent like all of yesterday reading through the archives of this and Fletcher's blog. I don't think HDP is as bad as any of the other ones reviewed so far though. Still REALLY BAD, but not as bad as like Shredded Moose or JDR's piece of shit. I guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the new look as much as the old one, but I'd fucking read this as a txt document and it'd be fine with me. Keep up the good work!
Jim said...
Also, you don't have to be rich to be my girl, and you don't have to be cool to rule my world.
a25 said...
When I saw Brian Wilson was a soldier, I thought "Someone's gonna try to rip on Solomon for verbally attacking a soldier." Not only did they do that, but they cited the U.S. Constitution on the world wide web. Advice for U.S. Citizens out there: Whenever you do this, you come off as both an idiot and an asshole. In short: don't do this (Especially note that I'm 99% positive it came up in the past that Solomon's not in the U.S.). I have to confess, I laughed through these comics. But not because I found them funny. Rather, I found his world view so warped, that if I didn't laugh at it, I might just cry about it. It's just so disturbing that he thinks he's got women figured out. So, new questions to get onto the Internet: 1. Women: Humans, objects, or myths? 2. How wide is the web? (Hint: It surprisingly is wider than you)
Ray said...
Not only did they do that, but they cited the U.S. Constitution on the world wide web. Advice for U.S. Citizens out there: Whenever you do this, you come off as both an idiot and an asshole. In short: don't do this (Especially note that I'm 99% positive it came up in the past that Solomon's not in the U.S.). Well to be fair, there's a much higher chance someone on the internet is from the States than from, say, Bosnia. I'm Canadian and I've long since stopped getting pissed at people for assuming I'm American. But yeah, I think it was in the comments of one of the first posts that John isn't American.
John Solomon said...
Of course I can't be American, I'm educated.
Lim-Dul said...
Of course I can't be American, I'm educated. Like, better educated than that?
a25 said...
See, I'm from the U.S., and I get pissed when people assume I'm from the U.S., because I don't like people assuming to and fro. This is largely because of the extreme cases, like where idiots assume they can write good webcomics. Also, note that I'm in the U.S. by location, but anywhere else in spirit. I'm transnationed?
Anonymous said...
Wow, that Eva comic is pretty foul. But he drew a mouth, which makes it one of the better strips by default.
Anonymous said...
Wow, Brian Wilson should die for my freedom
Anonymous said...
fuck you first anon this just looks weird and akward now >:(
ben said...
"Now HDP IS something I'd call literacy rape (in a good way)" This statement hurt my brain when I tried to figure it out.
Roboky said...
Looking through the comic I wasn't expecting it to draw the response it did. This was because to me it was so generic you could have put it in front of me, made me close my eyes, switched it with another japanese 'inspired' webcomic full of boring characters and attempts to hide an inability to draw certain parts of a person, and then gotten me to open my eyes at the end of a horribly long run on sentence and I wouldn't have noticed the difference. Actually getting me to close my eyes would be easy, but you'd have to tell me it was gone before I'd open them, and I'd never fall for your lies EVER AGAIN. Sure enough though, it's shown that I'm an idiot who thinks the world is happy and shiny and strives for excellence overall, when the truth is people seem to be rabid and insecure about the truly mediocre. I would like to correct one thing about this article/review/violent beat-down, and that's that the bomb couldn't have been used to blow up civilians. There are far too many allied soldiers to be blown up, they can't go wasting ordnance on small fry when there's a good chance there might be a non-Americans fighting down there.
Jack said...
John: Regardless how any of us feel about the situation in Iraq or the War on Terror in general, it seems that this review (and the subsequent comments) have gotten sidetracked by the Iraqi War, instead of focusing on the atrocities committed by Hookie Dookie Panic. If that was your intention from the get go, then you have succeeded.
Monty Ashley said...
Speaking just for myself, I didn't go to Hookie Dookie Panic nearly as much as I usually do when there's a new review. I actually followed every single Shredded Moose link, because I enjoyed how bad it was. Every single link was like a delightful surprise: Yes, it really [i]is[/i] this bad! Whee! But with this one, I couldn't make head nor tail out of the first couple of links, so I scrolled down and hit a random one, and it's still terrible art depicting some random indecipherable action and crazy gibberish for text. So I gave up. On the other hand, I followed that link earlier in the comments to Boston and Shaun and laughed and laughed and laughed. [i]Man[/i] that's amazing.
Baron said...
Monty, if you like new-style Boston and Shaun, you'll love the utterly horrifying 900-strip inflation fetish adventure that is Boston and Shaun: Classic Don't be put off by the slow beginning, eventually you'll get to gems like this and this and THIS TOTALLY AMAZING THING And don't forget Shaun Reveal's DeviantArt page And this original Shaun Reveal fiction ={:8}D GTFIMP
Baron said...
and the crowning glory of the internet Shaun Reveal (in Wyrm form, so Sunblaze Wildfire) on Shaun Reveal "My kangaroo part of me ended up letting me have a pouch which I use it to store food and other items. The pouch is also considered bottomless and I can keep a huge horde inside my pouch. When I want something from my pouch, I just think of it and pull it out. Sometimes, I may end up stuffing people, furries, or any one else in there, too. I like having people explore deep inside my pouch."
Monty Ashley said...
The Internet truly is a superhighway of information. And other, less classifiable, things.
Bobert Locke said...
Wow, good to see you back to reviewing, and that your vitriol has returned in full force. I was starting to miss it. I actually found this comic through a link a few months back, looked at the first one, thought What the fuck just happened, and where was the joke?, then left. Also, while not a fan of the new look (orange is my favorite color damnit!) I like the title at the top now. Are the bolded words a reference to words that are bolded for no reason in many webcomics? Or does it just seem that way to me?
Anonymous said...
I can appreciate the fact that a lot of shitty webcomic "artists" have an overly worshipful perspective of Japan and vaguely (I stress, VAGUELY) Japanese-styled "artwork". However, that doesn't mean that bigots should go round making statements heavily implying some sort of innate cultural INferiority either, as some anonymous git did with such rubbish as "Japan lost world war II for a reason" and "they kill themselves 4x as much as we do", as if these two statements were supposed to prove something. Ignoring the fact that World War II has about as much relevance to modern-day Japan as a radish to a hen, the suicide rate doesn't simply dovetail via Ockham's Razor into "they are part of an inferior race/ethnicity". Anybody with half a brain ought to be able to figure that out, because then you have a circular argument: "they" kill themselves 4x as much because "they" are inferior because they kill themselves etc etc etc ad infinitum. Basically, stop being fucking prejudiced morons and turning an anti-shitty-artist issue into a broad anti-Japan issue.
Christopher said...
"Man, I love this blog. You know what you have to do next--"Girly"" Huh, never read that one. The same guy did one called Puppy Club, which I did read, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say is not bad. As for Hookie Dookie Panic, well, Shredded Moose pissed me off, but this one just makes me sad. First of all, a lot of those animu jokes were about shows for little kids, and I just find it really jarring to go from genial X-Entertainment style "Kids shows sure are goofy, eh?" humor straight into necrophilia land. Also... it's REALLY hard to wrap my head around the idea that this guy has ever left his house. Everybody besides his character is so thinly sketched that I can't imagine he's ever met a woman or a non-nerd non-white man. He writes these people like... like some racist from the 15th century who can't quite bring himself to believe that Americans or Africans are human beings. I don't see how you can be like that if you're actually out in the world, encountering these people every day. Also, I just realized something: This strip follows the classic Guy-Guy-Girl-Non-Human Thing cast formula as required by law, but the character filling the non-human slot seems to be a Vietnamese man. Ick. Do these gaming comics guys ever read anything besides other gaming comics? I remember a long time ago reading some article or something about comics artists saying what their biggest piece of advice to people starting in the field would be, and Warren Ellis' was that anybody who wants to write should read every day. And not just comics, but real books by great writers, because observing how the great writers put stories together will let you understand the basics of good storytelling better then anything. Now, for the most part webcomics artists don't do that, obviously, but strips like this make me think the author hasn't even tried to look at the great works of COMICS. I can see how reading, say, Charles Dickens could feel like homework, but something like Battle Angel Alita is an excellent study in how you can fill your comic with detail without making it hard to read motion. The lack of effort so many webcomics authors put into bettering themselves as artists just drives me nuts. I mean, Whatsisface: Oracle For Hire has been running, what, five years? A really driven person could go from no skill at all to professional level in that time, but even a hobbyist should show serious artistic improvement in that time. It's just such a waste; these people have enough dedication to work on one task for years without any kind of recompense; think what the world would be like if they used that power for good.
Anonymous said...
http://www.gingercomics.co.uk/ Anna is the creator of Ginger Comics. She is ginger, a fact she has been both adored and hated for in her 26 years alive. She resides in Oxford, UK where she shares a house with a bunch of delightful characters. She has no qualifications in art as "Miss King, the art teacher was literally mental and incredibly annoying." Hence her inability to draw well (some may argue she cannot draw at all) She started drawing comics in February 2007 after being signed off sick from work (as a finds archaeologist) and getting incredibly bored. She feels she is "getting a bit better at this drawing jazz" and it is clear from her early comics she is honing her "talent?". Anna used to play bass guitar, but over the years her passion has decreased considerably. However, she has recently purchased a cello and plans to make nice noises. She adores monkeys.
Lilith Ester said...
Are the bolded words a reference to words that are bolded for no reason in many webcomics? Actually, the bolded words in webcomics are a lame attempt at mimicking print comics that sometimes use bolded words for emphasis or to show rhythm of speech or something. Most people don't know how to use them, I'd say. Also, I don't know if Ginger Comics should go on The List or not. On the one hand, it's horribly amateurish (she draws like I did when I was fucking five) but on the other hand ... I dunno. Reviewing that mess would be like nuking sleeping elephants.
Lim-Dul said...
If that was your intention from the get go, then you have succeeded. No, it wasn't his intention but you can never predict the direction a discussion will take (unless it contains "arguments" by Brew or Brian Wilson, then you can see them coming from miles away - see the prophetic post by Mike). Here's what John said about the whole situation if you missed it somehow: I love how an offhanded comment about why the US military would accept such a bigot into their ranks has somehow spiralled into jingoistic rants about how my free speech is protected by that same US military despite the fact I apparently shouldn't be using that free speech in the first place. Lighten the fuck up, seriously.
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Lim-Dul said...
Reviewing that mess would be like nuking sleeping elephants. I concur. I think this blog should concentrate on reviewing comics in which the author is so smug that he/she/it (JDR pun) thinks that his/her/its "piece of art" is like the second coming of Jesus. Isn't that what the whole "and You Should Feel Bad" part is all about? It seems that Anne is fully aware of the fact that her comic is bad (one of the recent strips seems to be dealing with it) but she keeps on drawing it anyway - well, that in itself is condemnable but not in the same way it is in the case of people like Brew, Brian, Mookie, JDR etc.
Lim-Dul said...
I mean: Michael Terracciano, for example, seems to be holding lectures on storytelling and characterization on some comic conventions which could be regarded as a kind of stand-up comedy act, I guess, if they weren't so annoyingly hypocritical.
Anonymous said...
I'm so happy someone brought up Battle Angel Alita. It's been my absolute favorite manga for years. So for those of you who are checking the comments for pointers on GOOD stuff, heads up.
Anonymous said...
Man, I love this blog. You know what you have to do next--"Girly"" If memory serves, someone already suggested it, and Solomon called them an idiot for suggesting a good comic. Can't say it's one of my favorites, but the art isn't bad, and the crazyness is much more authentic than the generic "Super Banana Monkey Ninja Pirate POWER!" in some other comics.
Jack said...
@lim-dul No, it wasn't his intention but you can never predict the direction a discussion will take (unless it contains "arguments" by Brew or Brian Wilson, then you can see them coming from miles away - see the prophetic post by Mike). Yes, I suppose you're right. There was a palpable dread when I read about Wilson's soldiering in the actual post. Not dread in being offended ( Nobody remains thin-skinned on the Internet for long), but dread at how this was going to degenerate into bickering about the War in Iraq.
John Solomon said...
If memory serves, someone already suggested it, and Solomon called them an idiot for suggesting a good comic. Yes. The criteria by which I judge something to be "good" and "bad" is arcane, and not something so simple as "I like this" and "I hate this". I am, shocking as this may be to certain people, being objective when I use the terms. There are good webcomics I don't read and don't like. This is usually because they just aren't my thing, or perhaps because I have no time to read them. However, they are well-written and well-drawn, with little to no faults that I can find. They're good and I accept they're good, I just don't read them. Bad webcomics, on the other hand, do have something wrong with them. They have lots of things wrong with them. Not always bad art, but that's often a symptom. Mostly it's bad writing, since good writing can salvage bad art in a way that good art can't do the same to bad writing. They have a heaping of flaws, or perhaps one major one, that dumps it squarely into the territory of "bad". So unless a webcomic has tangible flaws, I'm afraid that there's nothing I can write about because it's simply not bad. I might not like it, you might not like it, but I can't make an update that says "It's well-written and it's well-drawn but ugh it totally sucks because I say so."
Anonymous said...
And no, posting whois results freely available from one site onto another is not illegal.
Robert said...
John, out of curiosity, is Errant Story on the list?
John Solomon said...
And no, posting whois results freely available from one site onto another is not illegal. JDR's a mentally unstable nutcase who has suggested I should die for talking about her webcomic. Let's not play the "post people's home addresses" game in case it comes back to bite me, and not you, in the ass.
John Solomon said...
John, out of curiosity, is Errant Story on the list? It's on the list of things that I've been told to check out, but I haven't found it in me yet to read it all. I may never, in fact, and instead fob it off onto one of the other Elders.
Anonymous said...
Good point, I'll drop the dox at 4chan instead.
Anonymous said...
One IRL comic I'm sick of is Calvin & Hobbes. One minute this 6 year old kid is completely naive, getting into trouble and being silly, then he starts preaching about global issues. Way to fucking ruin your main character, Bill, by using him to shove your dumbass beliefs down the throats of your young readers. And Watterson actually tries to put on this non-profit, agenda by refusing to sell t-shirts or mugs, but all the while selling printed books of every comic, including a final, complete collection that sells for over $100.
Unwinder said...
What the hug?
Anonymous said...
One decent comic is the Far Side. There's no political/social commentary, no stupid character-developnent, or any of that lame shit. Just jokes and cows. Same goes for PBF.
Anonymous said...
seconding the anon from comment #7, I suggest to take a look here: http://hed.comicgenesis.com/wee.html
Lim-Dul said...
There are good webcomics I don't read and don't like. Sooo... By analogy, there could be some really bad comics that might get on this list that you might l... OK - I'm not going there - especially so that no one gets a bingo from this comment. :-P
John Solomon said...
Bad logic. Just because there are good webcomics that I don't read doesn't mean I put aside my standards have bad webcomics I do read.
Pillowscars said...
Brian is getting no favour from me, anyway. All those faaaaabulous new hits will be lost in time, like tears in rain... ...Look back on your life in a few years, and think to yourself "Wow, for five years I didn't achieve anything that I can be proud of!" Haha wow, that is positively megalomaniacal! "like tears in the rain", Jesus Christ. This is like the transcript of an argument between mental patients. It's a pretty awful comic though.
Brigid Keely said...
Aww, the ginger comic is kind of cute. It's just a little diary comic, isn't it? This blog alternates between hilarious and depressing, often at the same time.
John Solomon said...
Haha wow, that is positively megalomaniacal! "like tears in the rain", Jesus Christ. This is like the transcript of an argument between mental patients. It's a pretty awful comic though. You're an uncultured heathen. Go watch Blade Runner right fucking now.
Ray said...
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x99/Gingercomics/224.jpg I honestly liked this one, didn't wanna risk looking at any other comics.
Hannah said...
"Vengenece"? Seriously man, if you can't spell the big words you want to use, just dumb it down and say "revenge". Anyone can spell that. I know servicemen who are literate, and servicemen who can draw, and well-rounded servicemen who can both spell and draw. But this racist, misogynist, humorless, illiterate, talentless void is the one representing our country instead of them. Of course, if representing our country involves getting shot, I guess I'd rather keep the smart ones intact.
Anonymous said...
Am I the only one who saw the comment from the Dominic Deegan fan with an attempted DEFENSE of the rapist-love storyline?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous quote: or the thing about the rape, you have to take into acount that Mookie is creating a culture (I won't deny it's based on Warcraft) and that he designed it so that the way they spoused was to be with eachother (in a biblical sense. Oh God another douche trying to defend rape as "part of the culture" in Mookie's story. Hey douche, the Janjaweed soldiers in Darfur use rape as a means to oppress the local populace, should we accept it as "just a cultural difference"? The Yzedi tribe taped themselves stoning a teenage girl to death and posted it on the internet for all the world to see. Her crime was dating a Muslim man. I guess though we shouldn't feel sick or outraged by this footage because it's "part of their culture". Somehow or other woman hating has found a new level of acceptability, in the name of some sort of "tolerance" ironically. Tolerance for everyone but us women. Thankfully Dominic Deegan is only a work of fiction compared to these real life example, but I see the same type of mentality at work in perpetrators, and defenders of this piece of fiction. I'm thankful at least that Solomon, Lillith and co. can call these creators on their shit when they see it. If only more like them were doing it in the real world.
Anonymous said...
"Haha wow, that is positively megalomaniacal!" ...do you understand what the word "megalomaniacal" means?
Anonymous said...
Clearly he doesn't. Oh no. Tim Buckley is an example of a megalomaniac. No, John is just a very angry and very entertaining reviewer. Take things too seriously around here and you'll be digging your own grave.
Digitaaliklosetti said...
For the record, my computer *does* run on the blood of the brave American dead. It's an old Dell. Saves me fortunes on electricity.
K. Thor Jensen said...
Anonymous said: "Now HDP IS something I'd call literacy rape (in a good way), the only thing I can say about the webcomic is it's hardcore, the art is crappy though. But the concept's good" Oh, shit, what the fuck is the "concept" of Hookie Dookie Panic? Badly-drawn faggots who don't make sense and live together?
Bobert Locke said...
Actually, the bolded words in webcomics are a lame attempt at mimicking print comics that sometimes use bolded words for emphasis or to show rhythm of speech or something. Most people don't know how to use them, I'd say. I know that, that's kinda what I meant. I was asking if the title to the blog was a reference to those webcomics, since actually emphasizing those three words would makes an awkward, heavy-sounding sentence (webcomic in particular). I'm guessing by your response that it's not? Ah well, I still found it clever.
Anonymous said...
So, would http://www.goblinscomic.com/ be bad enough to be on this blog? It's over the top high fantasy melodrama and it tries to use dnd mechanics in a serious fasion.
Anonymous said...
I know that, that's kinda what I meant. I was asking if the title to the blog was a reference to those webcomics, since actually emphasizing those three words would makes an awkward, heavy-sounding sentence (webcomic in particular). I'm guessing by your response that it's not? Ah well, I still found it clever. I'm assuming it's because "Webcomic", "Bad" (the first one - the second is just repetition) and "Feel" are the key words/concepts of the title.
John Solomon said...
I'm assuming it's because "Webcomic", "Bad" (the first one - the second is just repetition) and "Feel" are the key words/concepts of the title. Ding ding ding! This is exactly it. Only "bad" and "feel" are what you should put emphasis on if you said it aloud. Trying to stress "webcomic" as well would, as said, sound weird. The bolding is basically just to make an otherwise plain text title look a little more like a title instead of text in a different font. Although I'll probably change it again in a few weeks, so who really gives a damn.
Anonymous said...
I love all this. Everybody thinks they're opinion is higher than everyone else's. Frankly, I've been laughing my ass off at the forthcoming madness of the situation. Not even the forums on IMDB have been this insane. I love it. Pure beauty. My opinion on this comic? I don't really care. It's free and it takes time off my work schedule, much like everything else I do online, including this stupid comment. All I do know is that the author is good friends of a fellow AMV'er I happen to know, so I support him in my own way. But I also respect your opinion as well, as you make some good points on a few minor points that could use improvement. I just have one favor to ask of you: what is your opinion on the Man Show with Adam Corolla and Jimmy Kimmel? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty certain it's the same humor. Of course, that's just me saying, I could be wrong.
Anonymous said...
Being that some people can look at things with an open mind. Or travel through the threads of /b/ this is a rather amusing comic. The only thing I couldn't get was the ponies eating cake jokes. As for Adda, I've seen better names and the fact he made he a slave to a man hating woman. At least he makes him suffer repeatedly for his dealings with her. For the armed forces, I've seen a few con reports about him and he talks about what he saw out their. I'll admit that his arts bad, but its improved since strip one. Two at least he doesn't copy and paste like their is no tomorrow. And so he happens to play into every cliche in existence. But after a really shitty day you can't help, but laugh at baby armor.
Sean "Seventeen" Rose said...
What's with these shitty webcomic artists being named after 60's musicians much more talented than they will ever be? I await a review of "Shitty PA Ripoff #146" written by Cat Stevens and drawn by Eric Burdon. Also, who the hell was that bitching about "Calvin and Hobbes"? I totally disagree with their comment, but beyond that C&N is a non-webcomic that ended over a decade ago. Why don't we just complain about "Krazy Kat" while we're at it.
Anonymous said...
Being that some people can look at things with an open mind. Or travel through the threads of /b/ this is a rather amusing comic. The only thing I couldn't get was the ponies eating cake jokes. As for Adda, I've seen better names and the fact he made he a slave to a man hating woman. At least he makes him suffer repeatedly for his dealings with her. For the armed forces, I've seen a few con reports about him and he talks about what he saw out their. I'll admit that his arts bad, but its improved since strip one. Two at least he doesn't copy and paste like their is no tomorrow. And so he happens to play into every cliche in existence. But after a really shitty day you can't help, but laugh at baby armor. good christ Gertrude Stein uses punctuation better than you
tehkou said...
Also, who the hell was that bitching about "Calvin and Hobbes"? I totally disagree with their comment, but beyond that C&N is a non-webcomic that ended over a decade ago. Why don't we just complain about "Krazy Kat" while we're at it. I'm pretty sure that guy was being "ironic." Another guy (maybe the same guy?) made a similarly-phrased comment about Peanuts a few posts back. See, it's very clever, because by cut and pasting the rough form of John's criticisms onto comics they don't apply to, it completely disproves everything he says. And it totally works, too! I now believe that Hookie Dookie Panic is the pinnacle of comic artistry. Also, congratulations, anonymous #534! Your air of witty superiority and dispassion about the issue has shamed me into understanding the error of my ways. I understand now that it is foolish for me to have concerns about the quality of art, and that it is equally wrong to want to discuss this in a good-natured fashion with intelligent, like-minded people. You have uplifted me, sir. Good show.
Anonymous said...
good christ Gertrude Stein uses punctuation better than you Geez I didn't know that I was being graded on this.
Robert said...
Geez I didn't know that I was being graded on this. Welcome to the Internet. Since we communicate largely through text, bad spelling and punctuation places you on roughly the same level as a rambling hobo who slurs his words together. God, I hate the Internet. It's getting so that people will act indignant if you just want them to show a mild amount of competence.
Monty Ashley said...
Why don't we just complain about "Krazy Kat" while we're at it. It's the same joke every day! Literally, the same joke. Every single day. For decades!
Anonymous said...
I'm not being ironic. Calvin & Hobbes is garbage. After I wipe my ass with Family Circus, I perform a second wipe with Calvin & Hobbes to avoid skid marks.
Tae said...
Just by skimming through this piece of shit, I found these little shitgems. http://www.hookiedookiepanic.com/comic.php?ID=28 http://www.hookiedookiepanic.com/comic.php?ID=111 And of course, every single comic with the hideous Vietnamese caricature. So, he caricatures Koreans with the-never-get-old "They eat dogs, har har." For the Chinese(-Americans), it's go "back to China to knit soccerballs for .20 cents a week." Of course, for the Vietnamese, well, I don't know whatever the fuck the douchebag is trying to say with that *thing*. I think that's just about all the major East-Asian demographics in America he's insulted one way or the other. Oh, except of course, he doesn't make fun of the Japanese. They are cool because they make Anime and Video games and Pocky. He so desperately wants to be Japanese, but those other filthy dog-eating, sweat-shop employeed, diaper-wearing (seriously, WTF?) can go to hell apparently.
Anonymous said...
The Japanese are uncreative fucks. We Americans created Looney Tunes, Batman, Ren & Stimpy, and hundreds of other great characters with unique styles. The Japanese have about a million cartoons, all of them drawn exactly the same way. And they get away with by calling it anime, but its really just shitty, cookie-cutter characters and plots designed to make money.
Montablac said...
The Japanese are uncreative fucks. We Americans created Looney Tunes, Batman, Ren & Stimpy, and hundreds of other great characters with unique styles. The Japanese have about a million cartoons, all of them drawn exactly the same way. And they get away with by calling it anime, but its really just shitty, cookie-cutter characters and plots designed to make money. the same could be said of every thing humanity has accomplished in the past 100 or so years but the thing is that while the west focused on "one line gags" they were highly repedative an example from looney toons is where "whilie falls down a cliff" where as the east focus on a lengthy story rather than one ling gags,that is what makes the difference between them the people who buy "anime" are more interested in the story rather than the art work but in saying that every one has different tastes for comedy,literature,food,etc to say that one is to "generic" to the first one is like saying all humans are to "generic" to the first human being,we all differ in small ways and thats what draws people to different aspects of webcomics and entertainment in general do not fear tho,as i shall not be posting on this blog again,this is a one off item that i thought i would share
Anonymous said...
How the hell did Electric Retard not make the cut? I'm not even going to put the link up because I would surely be fired from my job if I accessed it at work. Just google it if you can stomach uncharted realms of disturbing. It seriously makes all this other stuff you're reviewing look like Mary Poppins.
Immelmann said...
Hate to say it, but I gotta give a big "lolinternet". Mr. Solomon! Read the bottom of the newest HDP. He says he might sue you. Sue you.
Anonymous said...
The stories in anime are convoluted shit that a 12 year old could write.
glyph said...
How can you sue a pseudonym?
Komiyan said...
There is zero point in reviewing Electric Retard- it exists only to make people respond to it, and it's much better to ignore it, like a child having a tantrum.
Lilith Ester said...
I'm not being ironic. Calvin & Hobbes is garbage. After I wipe my ass with Family Circus, I perform a second wipe with Calvin & Hobbes to avoid skid marks. You, good sir, have no soul.
Anonymous said...
Aren't these requests annoying, John?
Matt said...
electric retard is possibly the worst thing I've ever seen.
John Solomon said...
The Japanese are uncreative fucks. Yeah and all black people just lurve dat watey-melon.
John Solomon said...
How the hell did Electric Retard not make the cut? Because the paedophile who makes Electric Retard (and, yes, he literally is a paedophile) thrives off people complaining about his webcomic. He's an attention whore and I have no intention of feeding that addiction as much as I have of sending him a 6-year-old girl to feed his other addiction.
John Solomon said...
Hate to say it, but I gotta give a big "lolinternet". Mr. Solomon! Read the bottom of the newest HDP. He says he might sue you. Holy shit I think this is the first time that HDP has made me laugh.
Mike said...
I like how he's claiming it's Defamation of Character to call him mysogonistic (I can not spell that word) when his comic is evidence that he is. It's also evidence he's a hack writer too.
Sean "Seventeen" Rose said...
I love how he uses the term "active misogynist." Like you have to have a membership card and attend meetings or some shit. Either way he has no fucking clue what defamation of character is.
Anonymous said...
Howard Johnson is right!
Pillowscars said...
For the edification of the person asking if I know what megalomaniacal means and also the inbred who said that I don't, here is the definition: ...a psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence As in, say, writing something like this: You need me, my friend, and that's so pitiful it's almost hilarious. See? I mean, in all likelihood it may well BE that this hapless cartoonist does in some way or another "need" or at least benefit from this blog, but when you put it in those terms, it almost makes you sound like some nut sitting in a basement somewhere wearing a tinfoil crown and plotting the downfall of humanity. I certainly hope you came back to read this, and didn't disappear like so many tears in the rain...
a25 said...
I love when the people make empty threats. They just love to think they have control over everything they come in contact with. Of course, he'll actually take this to court, and at the trial JDR will kill Solomon.